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Aug14
High Point Church Refuses Gay Person's Funeral - Counter View

I am not an investigative reporter. I read the news, make a comment, often with my foot in my mouth or keyboard as the case may be.

What I do hope for is discussion and to be more 'knowing' when all is said and done.

This comment was tucked in under the original post - Gay Person Refused Funeral at High Point Church in Arlington, TX and I thought it worth bringing into a regular post.texas.mega.gay.church-thumb.jpg

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Knowledge is the name of your site and so far I have seen very little. (That happens to me a lot. If you need more proof...ask my wife.)

The truth for not allowing the funeral was not that Cecil was gay but the way the funeral was to be ran.  I am confident that at any one of your churches that you attend that a male greeter does not kiss guys on the mouth when they walk in the

building.  I am also very confident that your church would not allow the officiator to allow other homosexual men to speak about their past affairs with the deceased, or show openly gay behavior on the video screens throughout the church, or bring in the local all homosexual choir
for the music. If all this was about was burying a guy that was gay the
service would have happend.  However, a memorial of this nature would not
even be allowed in a public school much less a church that agrees with you
as you stated "doesn't condone the gay lifestyle".  Ignorance is always
bliss....try getting some facts before judging a situation you read about
on the internet!

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If your (Eddie) facts are right...then, yes, I stand corrected and agree with you. I would not want the funeral held in the church either...and, nor would Jesus.  

Jesus, no doubt, met with and befriended homosexuals - on their turf. However, when the homosexuals came to him, they played by his rules.

What do you think?


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I think High Point Church members are being told things to keep them in line and keep loyalty to leadership higher than loyalty to truth.
Blog on!

BD,
The HPC members are being told the truth about the unfotunate situation. Quit assuming BD and thinking about things you have no knowledge of. Like I said above, and it might be shocking to you, all things in the media you hear are not true. Ignorance is bliss, facts and wisdom are power.

I agree,
Jesus befriended everyone. For that matter, look at his disciples: tax collectors, zealots, and hotheads who disfigured others with swords! Jesus did not come to talk to the religious ones in his day, but instead met and accepted all people where they were in their life and then encouraged and gave hope.

For all who have a interest in the real story, please log on to www.highpointchurch.com The church did not refuse to give this man a funeral, quite otherwise. The church refused to have a funeral celebrating the gay lifestyle, which included, questionable at best, photos of two men together. The family would not alter the service, which was in direct contrast to its beliefs and convictions. As for Jesus...go back to the new testament...he threw over the tables of the moneychangers in the temple in a rage of anger...he said his house was to be a house of prayer and worship of God. The bible clearly states that two men lying together is an abomination.

Since you said "...try getting some facts before judging..", I feel I must inform you that the Turtle Creek Choral is NOT a "all homosexual choir" as you stated as fact.

The Turtle Creek Choral has always had "an open-door policy, respectful of diversity and welcoming to all in the greater Dallas community who have a love of chorale music and wish to audition" and has had plenty of heterosexuals singing, helping, and supporting their group.

But, as you say "Ignorance is always bliss"!


This isn't about an "all homosexual" choir ... it isn't about a "gay man" and his funeral.
It's about a believer's ability to choose what kinds of things they are going to endorse in their church. If I were a member of a church that held a gay man's funeral I would be proud of the love we showed. If the church allowed pictures of gay men fondling each other on big screens I would never return! If, however, my church refused to do the second, offered to do the first and, when refused, rented AN ALTERNATIVE SITE FOR THE MEMORIAL as I understand High Point did ... I WOULD STAND UP AND SHOUT PRAISES TO THE PASTOR AND STAFF.
As a reporter, I've learned one thing I wish I could convince all bloggers to do ... ASK QUESTIONS AND GET THE FACTS BEFORE CONDEMNING WHAT YOU HAVE ONLY HEARD FROM MAINSTREAM (READ THAT FAR LEFT) NEWS ORGANIZATIONS!

The family was never offered the opportunity to change the service.

The family told the video editor to "use his discretion" meaning he could have cut out anything he might think offensive.

The family says they did not include "hugging and kissing" pictures anyway.

So what was the problem with their service? And why didn't the church tell them sooner than 24 hours ahead of time?

I'm constantly amazed and saddened at how Christians tend to sum up gay men's lives as sexuality and nothing else. I am beyond sad to see that this continues up until death.

bottom line is;the church doesn't have to host the funeral services of a gay man if they don't want to.you people should grow up and except the descision,and stop trying to change the planet in your favor.the fact is male units are made for females(your wife actually),and it isnt a natural fit for another man.the same can be said for females and if we were all gay we would be extinct in a hundred years or less for lack of reproduction.so stop saying your struggle is like being black,or a woman,or whatever.it's not.you didn't choose your race or gender,but you can choose to have to have an intimate relationship.you can also choose when and who you have it with.if your not being raped;it's your choice..period. grow up please..

I do believe that Jesus loved all people. I am a pastor and would have no problem having a funeral for a openly homosexual man at the church where I serve; however, certain guidelines would have to be met so that it would be clear that the church is NOT supporting homosexuality, but supporting the family of the deceased. We are to love people, not the sins that so easily beset each of us. I believe that Jesus was the best example, but Jesus also did not tolerate certain things going on in the temple. I know that he didn't turn over the tables of homosexuals [the tables were those of money changers], but the principle is that Jesus did not allow just anything to go on in His Father's temple. So, I don't believe that there would be anything wrong with having a funeral for a gay person in the church...but certain things would have to be in order; if certain stipulations are not adhered or agreed to, then the funeral would happen, but not at the church where I serve. Gay weddings are out of the question; I think it's up to the discernment of the pastor and the people who are working with the pastor. God bless!

What nonsense is this?Why is a church obliged to hold a funeral for a homosexual?If this gentleman did not find it fit whilst alive to live according to the bible that abhors homosexuality why should the church be obliged to conduct a funeral for him? To achieve what?You people are real funny.All the so called tax collectors and adulterers that Christ came into contact with eventually changed from their wicked ways and followed him after he came into contact with them.He told some Go and sin no more.Judas who did not change met a sad end.Pls dont let us portray christianity as something it isnt.If you see a funeral conducted by a priest as befitting ,live right.If you cant, you also shouldnt be wanting a Christian conducted funeral in your death.That is no guarantee to where you will end up.Give us a break.

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